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Post by Venomclaw on Oct 6, 2010 12:17:11 GMT -6
Once upon a time a good shepherd named Sam lived in a lush green valley. He tended a small flock of sheep and protected them and cared for them and took their wool for himself. And his herd would grow, for all the sheep nearby heard that his charges need not fear the butcher...as I was saying, Sam was a kindly shepherd. And so Sam would take in sheep that ran away from other farms, where butcher's knife awaited them. Naturally, he would return the kind he didn't like...sheep with fleece that resembled dreadlocks or funny looking eyes or other undesirable traits. Still, all the animals around knew his place to be best. The safety of the sheep and Sam's prosperity were further enhanced by Sam's long shotgun. The jackals soon learned to pick other prey and the sheep were content, though often cold for lack of fleece. Over time, however, the happy sheep began to notice that something was amiss. For instance, when the jackals slinked by, Sam would no longer chase them. He would simply blast them from the porch of his spare but neat white house. The problem with that was simple: most of the pellets ended up in the sheep, with a distinct minority inconveniencing the jackals. Moreover, whether because of myopia or a drinking problem, Sam would often fire upon black sheep of the herd, as if confusing them with the jackals. When the sheep complained, the herder would look puzzled and go home to enjoy fine mutton. The situation grew intolerable, yet everyone knew that other ranches had the same problems, and worse. The most active of the herd had finally come up with a good idea. Next time the jackals came in to try their luck they were able to get right next to the sheep -- and then the rams and the ewes charged, giving hell with horn and hoof. No sooner that the predators retreated, leaving mangled comrades in their wake, than did rancher Sam come out, shotgun at the ready. He surveyed the battleground and addressed the sheep. --"Sheep," he said "I am impressed! Who did this fine work?" Several planners of the ambush came forward, baaaing proudly. Sam raised his shotgun and blasted the animal closest to him. The rest stood dumbfounded, not sure what to do. The shepherd quickly shot the others who came forward. --"That" he declared "is the end to which all who employ violence against fellow animal will come." One ewe began to say that jackals were not exactly fellow animals, but the gaping muzzle of Sam's shotgun restored quiet. Sam knew he was right, for if the dumb beasts learned to fend for themselves, he and his shotgun would be unemployed. Worse yet, fleecing would become outright perilous. And so life goes on as before. Jackals eat better, and so does Sam. Stray pellets have a commendable ability to find sheep while seeking jackals. And the herd is content, for they know that the other sheep have it even worse. Copyright 1997 Oleg Volk www.a-human-right.com/So, do you support or detest guns? Personally, I support guns. Evil people will get guns, better that citizens have them as well, after all, a gun is known as Peacemaker for it's ability to end violence with just it's appearance.
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Post by Riversky on Nov 15, 2010 14:10:58 GMT -6
I support them. Heck, I'll be carrying one the day I turn eighteen. xD I'm already starting the lessons very soon. My mom has a permit. o3o
Not to mention, it's in the Constitution. Clear as day. How in the heck do people miss that? Are they really that daft? 'o.o
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Post by Nightshade on Nov 15, 2010 14:16:28 GMT -6
Same reason why some people would argue with Thomas Hancock what the Constitution means. Self-righteousness.
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Post by Sorrelblaze on Nov 21, 2010 13:02:34 GMT -6
Sorry against them, guns not only end violence but begin it. If guns never existed then many would be alive this day. [looking at the history channel episode on school shootings, then looking at the newspaper]
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Post by Shadefrost on Nov 22, 2010 14:02:36 GMT -6
Sorrelkit, how many people have had their lives saved by the use of guns? Would you rather we ran around in spears wearing togas? XD
If guns never existed, than even more people would be dead. If we had the freedom to carry guns back during 9/11, then someone would have shot down those terrorists. But for some strange reason, the Constitution can be disregarded whenever the heck the government feels like it... "Oh, this doesn't matter as much as THIS. This isn't right, let's just ignore it." That's basically what they're saying.
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Post by Sorrelblaze on Nov 23, 2010 9:41:31 GMT -6
If guns never existed the chaos with the guns wouldn't exist, neither would the need to stop fights with guns. And not having guns doesn't mean we will run around in togas. When studying history I didn't notice anything about guns having something to do with our clothing style and human intelligence. Gun is a non-living thing, the only thing it is use for is for violence [both to create and stop. That I agree on.]. I mean look back at the 100 year war, that wouldn't have begun if their were no guns, well It would exist but not being 100 YEARS long, guns started it and ended it. But if guns never existed then what would have started it? A spear can't make a 100 year war, it kills -50% times then a gun.
The bushmen in Africa have no guns, and have no major battles/wars, in fact I don't remember the last time I saw it anywhere if a bushmen tribe attacked another.
[No offense meant]
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Post by Mathe on Dec 6, 2010 17:08:13 GMT -6
I agree with the right to own a gun since they do exist, but go against their existance. If there were just swords war wouldn't be as drastic because you could feel the other's life seeping onto your hands. With a gun you feel nothing and usually just move on. War would be bloodier though. But on the topic yes I agree with owning them since their existance is irreversable.
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Post by Sunlight on Dec 8, 2010 11:12:13 GMT -6
*Agree with that concept* guns can be owned but I don't think they should exist.
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Post by Venomclaw on Dec 8, 2010 14:05:22 GMT -6
Thing is, guns are wonderful tools to end tyranny. Before guns, most revolutions ended in death and failure. With guns, America was founded, we wouldn't have beaten the British if we hadn't had better weaponry (Kentucky Rifle) and tactics. With swords, it was CHARGE, and the one with more men won. Now it is whoever is smartest, and best equipped, which most revolutionaries were. Colt made on gun, The Equalizer, which summed up it and most guns use, to equalize the battle.
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Post by brightleaf on Dec 10, 2010 17:37:11 GMT -6
Many people would not have died if guns never existed. I mean look at the terrorist attacks like 911 that would not have occured and impacked us so greatly if we only had swords. I mean guns were the beginning of a large search for the best weapons. Look at the news, this search is so out of control that we as a country don't know who to trust. From the suspicion of Iran making nuclear weapons, to the attack on South Korea. This search for the best mass destructive weapon is getting out of hand. I don't care for the existence of guns, what is done cannot be undone. But I don't believe in using them for murder. Some people call it defense, but it is all the same. The 1 thing that was on the mind of the guns creator was not to make merry of everything, but to seek out vengence, and the gun has served more than just it's purpose in this world. it has served as the cause of this bloody history we are forced to claim is ours.
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Post by Venomclaw on Dec 10, 2010 17:53:18 GMT -6
Thing is, before guns it was whoever had the most people wins. Often, those people included slaves. Now, it is whoever is more advanced. Much more fair, as you cannot be lazy in today's wars and expect to win. Not to mention, if guns hadn't existed, neither would America, we did not out-number the British OR Indians. But we had better guns and knew how to use them from hunting.
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Post by Ripplewind on Dec 11, 2010 16:27:55 GMT -6
Actually we did since the French helped >.<
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Post by Venomclaw on Dec 11, 2010 18:44:44 GMT -6
The french did mostly naval stuff.
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Post by brightleaf on Dec 11, 2010 19:46:53 GMT -6
Still help though. Ripplepaw has a point French helped, naval is still helping.
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